Canon USA to launch new Cinema EOS camera on June 5, 2024 at 3PM EDT

[Canon Rumors Guy]

Canon USA has announced that there will be a live YouTube presentation on June 5, 2024 at 3:00 EDT to introduce a new Cinema EOS camera.

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[Stig Nygaard]

It might not be as likely this time(*), but as I remember, the R5 got its first official mention (or was it the second mention?) from Canon at a big Cinema EOS online event like this. It was as a "bonus teaser" to what was coming in Canon's other camera-line.

(*) Last time the R5 8K video rumour had been rolling for some time. R5II haven't had a similar video-related "signature rumour".

 

[Stig Nygaard]

It might not be as likely this time(*), but as I remember,

But I remember more clearly now. The first official mention of the R5 was a "development announcement" of an 8K capable R5. Then followed by a number of teasers, where I think the one at the Cinema EOS was the first.
But since we haven't had at least a pre-announcement of the R5II, I guess it is VERY unlikely to hear anything about it...

 

[miketcool]

They’re dropping the RF and AI enhanced C300 mk4 or C500 mk3.

 

[Brikna]

Full Frame Cinema model with RF mount... C700 MkII or C500 MkIII? Or will the FF drop even lower in the Cinema model range?

 

[tomislavmoze]

I’ve done a comparison to my c70.
So it is slightly larger than c70 but not as large as c300 iii. Sensor looks the same size but without those corner things c70 has.
Really interesting. Was hoping to see a c70 style camera with R3 sensor that is polished like the R5c sensor was.

 

[miketcool]

I’ve done a comparison to my c70.
So it is slightly larger than c70 but not as large as c300 iii. Sensor looks the same size but without those corner things c70 has.
Really interesting. Was hoping to see a c70 style camera with R3 sensor that is polished like the R5c sensor was.
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I think think the addition of the microphone opening may make this a C50 or C90. I would genuinely like to see a cinema-centric small body for gimbal work.

 

[tomislavmoze]

I think think the addition of the microphone opening may make this a C50 or C90. I would genuinely like to see a cinema-centric small body for gimbal work.

c 70 has also microphone opening at a similar spot, you can se it on the opposite side also. This does seam larger than c70 regarding body size. Also this camera does not have the the corner masks on the sensor like c70 has, this could mean either a slightly larger sensor or maybe IBIS which would be cool to have for run and gun work. Really looking forward to se what will it be. Hope its not much larger than c70.

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

The mount shroud looks more robust. Swappable?

 

[Canon Rumors Guy]

They’re dropping the RF and AI enhanced C300 mk4 or C500 mk3.

If I just went off the certifications, I would wager a no.

 

[landon]

More pics please. Even if blurry.

 

[tomislavmoze]

The mount shroud looks more robust. Swappable?

Well on c70 those screw points are for securing the canon speed booster even more. So my guess is either that or it is just as you suggested user swappable to PL mount or more secured option for an PL adapter.

 

[dougsv]

I’ve done a comparison to my c70.
So it is slightly larger than c70 but not as large as c300 iii. Sensor looks the same size but without those corner things c70 has.
Really interesting. Was hoping to see a c70 style camera with R3 sensor that is polished like the R5c sensor was.
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It's not clear in your picture, but comparing 2 product shots (C70 vs new camera) shows that the new camera has a FF sensor (in the overlayed image, C70's sensor is green, new camera's is blue)




This is confirmed when we overlay the R5. The new camera's sensor looks to be FF and slightly shorter than the R5's sensor. So 16:9 FF sensor? EDIT: checking again and making a more precise overlay - the sensors look to be of the same dimensions, so it is a 3:2 sensor. I am now curious if this will be a sneak peak of the R5ii or R1 sensors.

 

[cpreston]

It's not clear in your picture, but comparing 2 product shots (C70 vs new camera) shows that the new camera has a FF sensor (in the overlayed image, C70's sensor is green, new camera's is blue)

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This is confirmed when we overlay the R5. The new camera's sensor looks to be FF and slightly shorter than the R5's sensor. So 16:9 FF sensor? EDIT: checking again and making a more precise overlay - the sensors look to be of the same dimensions, so it is a 3:2 sensor. I am now curious if this will be a sneak peak of the R5ii or R1 sensors.

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Nice catch. Now I am excited. This would suggest a full frame sensor with open gate capabilities and user installable mounts in a moderately small box type camera. This is what I think Canon has been missing. We will see if they are going upscale with a C700 II or we’re getting a replacement for the C70/R5c/C500.

 

[tomislavmoze]

It's not clear in your picture, but comparing 2 product shots (C70 vs new camera) shows that the new camera has a FF sensor (in the overlayed image, C70's sensor is green, new camera's is blue)

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This is confirmed when we overlay the R5. The new camera's sensor looks to be FF and slightly shorter than the R5's sensor. So 16:9 FF sensor? EDIT: checking again and making a more precise overlay - the sensors look to be of the same dimensions, so it is a 3:2 sensor. I am now curious if this will be a sneak peak of the R5ii or R1 sensors.

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you are right, I forgot to remove the ND so the sensor looks larger on my c70 image...ok this is definitely an FF camera

 

[LSXPhotog]

It's not clear in your picture, but comparing 2 product shots (C70 vs new camera) shows that the new camera has a FF sensor (in the overlayed image, C70's sensor is green, new camera's is blue)

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This is confirmed when we overlay the R5. The new camera's sensor looks to be FF and slightly shorter than the R5's sensor. So 16:9 FF sensor? EDIT: checking again and making a more precise overlay - the sensors look to be of the same dimensions, so it is a 3:2 sensor. I am now curious if this will be a sneak peak of the R5ii or R1 sensors.

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What was your basis for making this overlay? If you use the mount like ”tomislavmoze” did In his example we have two radically different theorized dimensions and camera form factors.

 

[Navism]

Canon can share the R5 mkii stacked sensor.
The new one would be over 8K60p. May be 8K120p because R5 mkii battery would to have chance to do it.
Open Gate 8K120p!!!! can't wait!!

 

[dougsv]

What as your basis for making this overlay? If you use the mount like ”tomislavmoze” did In his example we have two radically different theorized dimensions and camera form factors.

The mount, of course. The sensor is not clear in his picture, like he just mentioned, he had the internal ND filter ON.

 

[DBounce]

At this point I’m ready to be blown away. 18-20 stops of usable dynamic range. I’ve seen enough patents with ridiculous claims of 21 stops of dynamic range, and super low rolling shutter, and even global shutter. I’m tired of incremental updates. My wallet say no. Want my money Canon? Wow me. Nuff said!

 

[tomislavmoze]

I would happy with the DR of c70 in a FF sensor so I can use my RF L glass with it. Also 6K would be perfect that is a sweet spot for most of us regarding video work. There is so little that I miss regarding c70. It is great for run and gun, documentary and small advertising sets. And you can do a lot with it just by yourself.